Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Control Our Affluence And Use Our Effluents

2005 November 29, Tuesday, 14:46

Being Independent, Making, Growing, Living From Our Own Resources

My vision was of an Australia operating as isolated as possible from the rest of the rotten world, doing our own thing, being independent, making, growing, living from our own resources, and being in control of our own destinies and being able to take care of our own environment at least, and aim for that elusive sustainability, and take a long time to do it slowly and thoughtfully... And Try Hard to do it along the lines that Ted Trainer has done a lot of thinking about, and living it hisself, I went to the Pigface Point place and saw the example, it has so much to grab your interest, water wheels and sun parabolas and a fabulous shed or two, full of things to use for something else...

Build Up A New Society That Might Live On For A Lot Longer Than These Current Holy Market Rat Bags

And we could use all those roads to grow fruit trees for free as Dr Ted says, what a lovely vision to have, just walk outside and consume the natural free fruits and sustenance from nature, nice idea... I wouldn't mind living at low tech, at least you get to do the tech, we'd still have all the knowledge of jobs we hadn't exported away, and then we could build up a new society that might live on for a lot longer than these current Holy Market rat bags...

Control Our Affluence And Use Our Effluents

I'd love to see Canberra adopt a new lifestyle as their search for an identity, they're always wanting to be visited for some reason, at least that would give them a good example to set rather than a set of monuments to the current world of destruction... Instead we're getting land releases for new suburbs and building ridiculous buildings for god knows what... Instead we could set up PermaCulture Producers on those cleared off useless lands, and do static long term living, and control our affluence and use our effluents... Just think what a difference your prospects would be when the Holy Market collapses and nothing arrives anymore, you'd still have something to eat if you'd done it right... Hmmm, better be well-armed in the future, no matter what... Shortages will become like a road rage, you'll have rages all over, and I think I'm having one now...

What Dr Ted Trainer Said On The ABC

2005 November 29, Tuesday, 11:49

We Should Immediately Transform Into Small Self Sufficient Societies

I been lissening in so much more on my Podcasts to all the programs on cutting edge news and current affairs and dire warnings to go on the ignored lists in politics, and here's another one, and it's from Ted Trainer who wears a Dark Green mantle and a search engine finds Ted Trainer's words everywhere, and he popped up on the ABC Radio National Science Show saying that we should immediately transform into small self sufficient societies and reduce our energy footprints to about 6% of what our affluent society gouges out of the planet... Thing is about his argument is he often uses the entire world population to extrapolate the consumption figures, as if the aspirations of all should be taken into account to share resources fairly on a per capita basis, remarkably fair-minded, even for me, trouble is the rich gated communities are never ever going to forsake their own lifestyles, and the attitude they have ingrained into their cultural mores, is for everyone else to bugga off... So Ted Trainer is right, and the implication is: the whole world is on the way to buggary, and the rich will be going along with the poor...

What Dr Ted Trainer Said On The ABC

Anyway this is what Dr Ted Trainer said on the ABC:

The Pursuit Of Affluence And Growth - Ted Trainer

"The most disturbing problem of all is our failure, our refusal to even recognise that the pursuit of affluence and growth is a terrible mistake."

The Fundamental Cause Of The Big Global Problems Threatening Us Now Is Simply Over-Consumption.

The rate at which we in rich countries are using up resources is grossly unsustainable. It’s far beyond levels that can be kept up for long or that could be spread to all people. What is not clearly understood is the magnitude of the over-shoot. The reductions required are so big that they cannot be achieved within a consumer-capitalist society. Huge and extremely radical change in systems and culture are necessary.

Several lines of argument lead to this conclusion, but I’ll note only three.

Resources Are Already Alarmingly Scarce

Some resources are already alarmingly scarce, including water, land, fish and especially petroleum. Some geologists think oil supply will peak within a decade. If all the world’s people today were to consume resources at the per capita rate we in rich countries do, annual supply would have to be more than six times as great as at present, and if the 9 billion we will have on earth soon were to do so, it would have to be about ten times as great.

Per Capita Area Of Productive Land Needed To Get By

Secondly, the per capita area of productive land needed to supply one Australian with food, water, settlements and energy is about seven to eight hectares. The US figure is close to 12 hectares. But the average per capita area of productive land available on the planet is only about 1.3 hectares. When the world’s population reaches 9 billion the per capita area of productive land available will be only .9 hectares. In other words, in a world where resources were shared equally we would have to get by on about 13% of the average Australian footprint.

Already Seeing Disturbing Climatic Effects

Third, the greenhouse problem is the most powerful and alarming illustration of the overshoot. The atmospheric scientists are telling us that if we are to stop the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere from reaching twice the pre-industrial level, we have to cut global carbon emissions and thus fossil fuel use by 60% in the short term, and more later. If we did that and shared the remaining energy among 9 billion people, each Australian would have to get by on about 5% of the fossil fuel now used. And that target, a doubling of atmospheric CO2, is much too high. We’re now 30% above pre-industrial levels and already seeing disturbing climatic effects.

Enormous Reductions In Rich World Resource Use

These lines of argument show we must face up to enormous reductions in rich world resource use if we’re to solve the big global problems. This is not possible in a society that’s committed to the affluent lifestyles that require high energy and resource use. We in countries like Australia should reduce per capita resource use and environmental impact, to something like one-tenth of their present levels.

Our Supreme, Sacred, Never-Questioned Goal Is Economic Growth

Now all that only makes clear that the present situation is grossly unsustainable. But that’s not the most important problem. This society is fundamentally and fiercely obsessed with raising levels of production and consumption all the time, as fast as possible, and without any limit. In other words, our supreme, sacred, never-questioned goal is economic growth. We’re already at impossible levels of production and consumption but our top priority is to go on increasing them all the time.

9 Billion People Expected On Earth

If we in Australia average 3% growth to 2070 and by then the 9 billion people expected on earth have all risen to the living standards we would have then, total world economic output each year would be 60 times as great as it is now. Yet the present level is grossly unsustainable.

Moving From Consumer-Capitalist Society

Many respond here by saying that Yes, the problems are very serious but No, we don’t have to think about moving from consumer-capitalist society because more effort and better technology could solve the problems. It only takes a few seconds to show that this tech-fix position is wrong. The overshoot is far too big.

Technical-Fix Optimists

Technical-fix optimists like Amory Lovins claim we could cut the resource and ecological costs per unit of economic output to half or one quarter. But if global output rose to 60 times what it is now, even a Factor Four reduction by 2070 would leave global resource and environmental costs 15 times as great as they are now, and they are unsustainable now.

Scarce Things Go To Those Who Can Pay Most For Them

The foregoing comment has only been about sustainability and our society is built on a second deeply flawed foundation. We have an extremely unjust global economy. It’s a market economy and that means scarce things go to those who can pay most for them, that is, to the rich and not to the poor. So the rich countries gobble up most of the world’s resource production.

What’s Developed Is What’s Most Profitable Not What’s Most Needed

Even more important, in a market economy what’s developed is what’s most profitable not what’s most needed. So the development that takes place in the Third World is development of what will maximise the profits of corporations. Look at any Third World country and you see a lot of development but most of it puts their resources into producing to stock our rich world supermarkets and very little goes into the industries that produce the basic necessities the majority of poor people need. Conventional development is therefore well described as a process of plunder.

If We Had To Get By On Our Fair Share

Our living standards in countries like Australia could not be anywhere near as high as they are if these unjust processes did not occur and we had to get by on our fair share of the world’s resources.

‘Development’ For The Third World Is Totally Impossible

If one is to understand the nature of the problems facing us, one must focus on these concepts of gross unsustainability and injustice. For instance, they show that the conventional concept of ‘development’ for the Third World is totally impossible; there are nowhere near enough resources for all of them to rise to anything like our rich world ways and standards. Yet that’s the taken-for-granted goal of development.

Radical Social Change To Frugal Living Standards

Similarly few green people seem to recognise that the environment problem cannot be solved without dramatic reduction in the level of producing and consuming going on, and therefore without radical social change to frugal living standards and a zero-growth economy. Yet our peak environmental agencies do not focus on the absurdity of the quest for economic growth.

If We Insist On Remaining Affluent

And how many within the Peace movement realise that if we refuse to dramatically cut rich world demand for resources, and everyone strives to rise to our living standards, then there will inevitably be increasingly fierce competition for the dwindling resources. If we insist on remaining affluent, then we had better remain heavily armed. We can’t expect to go on getting far more than our fair share of the world’s resources unless we’re prepared to use force to invade oil fields and prop up compliant dictators.

The Only Way Out Of The Mess We’re In

What then is the answer? If the question is how can we run a sustainable and just consumer-capitalist society, the point is that there isn’t any answer. We cannot achieve a sustainable and just society unless we face up to huge and radical transition to what some identify as The Simpler Way, that is to a society based on non-affluent but adequate living standards, high levels of self-sufficiency, in small scale localised economies with little trade and no growth, to basically co-operative and participatory communities, to an economy that’s not driven by market forces and profit, and most difficult of all, a society that’s not motivated by competition, individualism, and acquisitiveness. Many have argued that this general vision is the only way out of the mess we’re in.

Our Failure, Our Refusal To Even Recognise That The Pursuit Of Affluence And Growth Is A Terrible Mistake

So which of these problems is our biggest one? None of them. The most disturbing problem of all is our failure, our refusal to even recognise that the pursuit of affluence and growth is a terrible mistake.

There Is Almost No Official Or Public Recognition

Despite our vast educational systems, information technologies and media networks, despite having hordes of academics and experts, there is almost no official or public recognition that the quest for affluence and growth is the basic cause of our alarming global predicament. There is no recognition of any need to move to The Simpler Way. These themes are almost never mentioned in the media, educational curricula, or government pronouncements.

A Profound Case Of Denial And Delusion

We are dealing here with a fascinating and powerful ideological phenomenon, a failure, indeed a refusal, to even think about the possibility that we are sitting on the railway tracks and there is a train fast approaching. It would be difficult to imagine a more profound case of denial and delusion. Some of the forces at work are understandable, such as the fact that profit driven media are not going to raise such issues but will work hard to seduce people into preoccupation with trivia, sport, celebrities and mindless consuming. But how do you explain why so very few academics and intellectuals concern themselves with these themes while many of them work at providing the economy with the technocrats, the managers, and the mentality that it needs.

An Ideology, Which Casts The Consumer Capitalist Way As The Only Conceivable Way

Obviously the corporate class is most culpable. Their very existence depends on maintaining the conviction that we need not even think about reducing consumption. The economists are high on the list too, teaching and practising an ideology, which casts the consumer capitalist way as the only conceivable way. But why do the educators so diligently teach that worldview. Why do the curriculum makers, and the ABC program makers, and journalists and the intellectual ranks so studiously avoid any reference to limits or the possibility that affluence and growth are suicidal goals or the possibility that survival requires urgent transition to some kind of Simpler Way? How can it be that almost all of our most intelligent and educated people devote themselves to pursuits which never challenge over-consumption and have nothing to do with the sustainability crisis now threatening the survival of all of us.

We Cannot Even Recognise That We Are Committed To Fatally Mistaken Goals

Toynbee analysed the fate of civilisations in terms of their capacity to respond to challenges. What then are our prospects, given that we cannot even recognise that we are committed to fatally mistaken goals.

The Blinding Curse Of Affluence

If the thing threatening our survival was a comet headed for earth, or a global flu epidemic, or another Hitler, there would instantly be focused attention and energetic and massive effort to deal with it. But what’s threatening us is the very thing that is cherished in consumer society above all else, greater material wealth. We suffer from the blinding curse of affluence. The situation was summed up elegantly by that insightful analyst, George W. Bush, when he said recently ‘The American way of life is not negotiable’.

We Could Quickly And Easily Move To Sustainable And Just Ways, If We Wanted To

The greatest tragedy is that we could quickly and easily move to sustainable and just ways, if we wanted to. Essentially that would involve people in suburbs and towns getting together to organise local economies with small farms and firms using local resources and labour, to produce to meet local needs. There would be many voluntary working bees and committees and town meetings. Some things would be free, such as fruit from trees planted on the commons. For the detail see The Simpler Way website.

Communities Are Trying To Demonstrate The Alternative Ways

This could be a far more satisfying way of life. Consider being able to live well on two days work for money a week, without any threat of unemployment, or insecurity in old age, in a supportive community. These are the kinds of conditions that thousands of people enjoy in eco-villages around the world. Many of these communities are trying to demonstrate the alternative ways to which the mainstream can move.

A Time Of Rapidly Intensifying Problems

I believe we are now entering a time of rapidly intensifying problems which will impact heavily on the complacency within the rich countries. The coming peak of petroleum supply might concentrate minds wonderfully, but I think the probability of us achieving the transition is very low.

Whether Your Region Manages To Build Local Economies

Your chances in the next few decades will depend very much on whether your region manages to build local economies, and whether the people living there are willing to shift to frugal, co-operative and self-sufficient ways.

Ted Trainer

There that's what Dr Ted Trainer had to say on the rare instance of having a media reply against the onslaught of Holy Market Globalism: A Profound Case Of Denial And Delusion taken for granted by the flock...

 

They Ought To Get Their Blinkers Off About Pioneering Heroes

2005 November 29, Tuesday, 10:30

They Ought To Get Their Blinkers Off About Pioneering Heroes

Doing history on the ABC666 about forgotten biographies, and Michael McKernan? got the mindset working about pioneering heroes getting away with murder of the environment, like he's lauding someone who invented the stump jump plough, so these land clearing dopes could provide the future Australia with erosion, deserts, dry land salinity and wildlife destruction, these people were the Easter Islanders of the colony, same stupid bluddy minded idiots who couldn't bear to adopt the nature that was already there, although they plundered and stole a land from the Abos which had already been fire devastated 50,000 years ago and since, but for christ's sake they ought to get their blinkers off about pioneering heroes, they were stupid bluddy minded vandals, that's the real history of Australia...

 

Make The Mobile Phones Ring For 1 Minute By L.A.W.

2005 November 23, Wednesday, 16:35

Make The Mobile Phones Ring For 1 Minute By L.A.W…

There's been hand wringing about road kills, accidents in the ACT are such an indictment, and it's getting worse, well the cause must be those Mobile Phones and I tell you one thing they could do to immediately reduce the road toll, that is Make the Mobile Phones ring for 1 minute by LAW… Cause I reckon people are rummaging about trying to answer the things too fast, and bang, whereas in one minute they could pull over and stop safely to answer the bluddy phone… Besides when you're stuck anywhere and the thing rings it gives you time to answer and saves having to reach message banks all he time, and then to call them back… AH, that's better haven't had a rant for ages, hours even… Besides what's the rush? It's just redneck blather…

Wednesday, November 23, 2005

The Best Candidate For Privatisation

The Ex-Commonwealth Serum Laboratories Have Found The Q Fever Serum Isn't Profitable

I hear the privatised version of the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories have found the Q Fever serum isn't profitable so let them be sick, I hope and pray to their god that the Australian So-Called Liberal Party all get Q Fever from sniffing animals, amen... Gees what a packet they could make from Bird Flu...

The Best Candidate For Privatisation Should Have Been Religions

Let's see, what should be re-nationalised and run with Government responsibility, well there's the CSIRO, the CSL, the CBA, the GIO, Telstra, and Optus should be banned cause they hang our citizens by the neck with religious laws banning things, and so it goes on, the biggest flops in recent history have been Privatisation, Eco-Rationalism, Individual AWAs, Union Amalgamation for that matter, and the dunderheaded redneck talkback on private radio, and the ABC for that matter... The best candidate for privatisation should have been religions, and the religious subsidies should be transferred over to unions, those tax free laws should only ever be for Unions, churches should go begging... And the things that were privatised, nationalise the lot of them, and make all those Private Schools go Public.... Ah, would give even suicide bombers something to live for...

Overwhelmed With Pressure And Stress...

2005 November 22, Tuesday, 10:46

Overwhelmed With Pressure And Stress...

A new study of workers shows more than half feel overwhelmed with pressure and stress... That would be the bottom half I spose, whereas I feel dreadful for not having been out in the parks and lakes and shops and pubs and clubs, and even now you have to start avoiding xmas already, bluddy jerks... Overwhelmed with apathy really, what ever happened to caring?

He Died For A Cause He Did Not Support, Oh Dear

2005 November 19, Saturday, 12:12

Heard This Apologist For Farmers Whinge The Other Day, Like Why Blame Us?

So the drought has broken, wasn't that one the inflictions from their god, like they used to be hurled around like curses, and imagined to be some thought process, hmmm, that's exactly what it was, but in their own stupid heads... And any lessons Learned? Nope, not by the slaves, too busy, hard workers, still consuming to death the poor planet... Heard this apologist for farmers whinge the other day, like why blame us? We're just carrying on in the tradition, the real question is how to get them to stop and be happy... And pull their heads in about farming, how to get the world of nature back? Well that should keep them busy, and on the Public Service Payroll I reckon...

He Died For A Cause He Did Not Support, Oh Dear

Yes, when things feel good apathy seeps in and drowns ya, but I don’t care...  He died for a cause he did not support, oh dear, there's a lesson in that for all of us, I can draw parallels... But don't they get smaller in the distance? It's so difficult to keep things in perspective with the Little Short-Sighted Magoo as Prime Minister…

Anglican Archbishop Jensen, What A Scream

2005 November 19, Saturday, 11:41

Anglican Archbishop Jensen, What A Scream

Had to laugh, this Anglican Archbishop Jensen, what a scream, maybe it was just the mood I was in but this tickled me, in taking his stance to waffle on something further he undoes his churchy scenario, I can just imagine how those other xtian churchy gits feel, specially the top one in England, the ones who don’t believe in any god anyway, but still insist on lying to the befuddled so here's what the Anglican's get told:

Has All This Fervent Prayer For The End Of The World Amounted To Anything? Here Is A Demonstrable And Monumental Failure… writes Peter Jensen.

DO YOU want this world to end, and a new one to begin? Rather surprisingly, the Australian Parliament begins proceedings with such a prayer. It goes something like this: "Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation."

Here are some of the most famous words in history, known and said daily by many millions of people. And yet, do Jesus' followers realise they are praying, among other things, for the end of the world?

Let's look more closely at it. There is the intimate opening, "Father", typical of Jesus, but untypical of the religion of his day. There is its brevity - just five requests. And there is the absence of religious palaver - no monumental or mystical flattery of God, just five short "asks".

And what are we asking? Only for an apocalyptic cataclysm. Jesus is assuming you are very dissatisfied with the present state of affairs; that you can see the immense harm that human evil is doing to the world and in the world; that you want justice to be done at last; that you long for the present world order to cease and a new age to be ushered in; that you want to be there when it happens, even though you contribute to the evil; that you want the present world political system to give way to the kingdom of God; that you want the meek to inherit the Earth.

We are saying, "Bring it on". I know we also pray for mundane things like daily bread. Even this is not as straightforward as it seems. An odd word is used here; it possibly means not our "daily bread", but something more like "tomorrow's bread" - let us eat today the bread which we will consume in the coming kingdom.

But if the Lord's Prayer has this ominous, apocalyptic edge to it, why do we continue to use it? More to the point, has all this fervent prayer for the end of the world amounted to anything? Here is a demonstrable and monumental failure. How can we in all seriousness continue to pray for the end of the world? Why bother with Jesus?

Why should Jesus, a first-century failed prophet, be of any interest to us at all?

I have been asking, has Jesus Christ a future? It is hard enough now to wonder why he had such a great past. And yet, that is not fair. Jesus is better than that. After all, even an unbelieving H.G. Wells said: "Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history." For this there must be a reason.

 

The answer is Stupidity

Proud Of The Real Australians

2005 November 15, Tuesday, 11:22

Proud Of The Real Australians

So proud of the real Australians who turned out to protests all over the country against the Little Rotten Rodent's Coalition against the Industrial Relations rip off, so now it's heading for a rip up, a much better option... The hide of the Little Scab's Coalition to take away the Worker's terms and conditions and destroy hundreds of years of working class struggle by Aussie Granddads and Grandmas of the kids coming through, to destroy the next generation's lives, it's a huge crime and I just hope that that Collection Of Right Wing Conservative Economic Rationalists get their comeuppance, it would be well deserved, such an atrocious bunch of greedy scabs end up on that heartless side of politics, they just wont look after anyone else, it's all themselves and no one else, if only we could deport them to where their cheap labour work forces live, be good to see them share in the poverty they create, justice for us all in Australia first...

It All Looks Black To Me

2005 November 8, Tuesday, 09:09

The Legacy Of Empires, The Colonialism Comes Back To Bite, It All Looks Black To Me

Now George Dubya-Dubya-III  and his primitives have put a match to the flames in Paris, and the often predicted racial riots have erupted, a nudge from xtian America into the Muslim world and look at the implications, what are they going to build into, will we see the right wing racial crackdown with the repatriation of French born foreigners off to somewhere else, another Guantanomo Bay somewhere, in Darkest Africa perhaps, it's the legacy of empires, the colonialism comes back to bite, it all looks black to me...

Immigration Becomes Fuel To The Economists Nightmare Of Never Ending Growth

When politics bows to the people who want cheap labour imported and immigration becomes fuel to the economists nightmare of never ending growth, this is what you get, slaves don't like being slaves sunless they're looked after, at least slaves had a value, but free slaves fighting for no jobs aren't happy chappies...

The Trubbles, Not Only Religious But There's The Racial Hatred And Shunning And Exclusion And Intolerance

Just what are the options for the French to take in order to stop the Trubbles, not only religious but there's the racial hatred and shunning and exclusion and intolerance, and then there's the nothing to lose ingredient, the hopelessness... First thing for France is to stop imports and make everything for themselves and create jobs in manufacturing which is what all modern countries should do, having someone else take your jobs away cause business men want cheap labour is the curse of it all, you must never import when the home-grown labour market is out of work, it's anathema...

The Police With New Powers Have Conducted 2 Am Raids On The Muslim Threat

At the same time as the Twelfth Night of the French Immigration riots, here in Australia the Police with new powers have conducted 2 am raids on the Muslim Threat, so a few handfuls of suspicious characters who think bad thoughts have been hauled in to be questioned, whatever questioning means nowadays, but then they tortured Guy Fawkes into telling of his fellow plotters, but I thought we had civilised the law since then, now it's all turning back time by the Scary Rednecks in the Coalition... Turns out the story has been published and these clowns seem indeed to be on the path to bombing something, like they were interviewed sussing out the Lucas Heights Reactor, same cowboy mindset as the Yanks, but not welcome here in Australia... So it's indeterminate solitary detention, but who knows for sure...

It Seems Jobs Is The Best Way To Redistribute Wealth

So globalisation is also at the base of the fires, I reckon whenever home-grown can displace imports, then the tariffs ought to be slapped on the imports, it seems Jobs is the best way to redistribute wealth, and tax cuts for the rich ought to be despised...  Once you've full employment then other agendas can be conjured up, besides why don’t the French create an internal domestic army of workers to reinvigorate the environment and do a bit of replanting and clean up and repair what mankind has done to nature, that should keep them busy...

Wednesday, November 02, 2005

Seems The Thing That Intelligent Design Proves Is How Dopey Anyone Is Who Believes Crap Like That

Seems The Thing That Intelligent Design Proves Is How Dopey Anyone Is Who Believes Crap Like That

A Shandy of sewage water might taste better than the scummy politics from the Little Unintelligent Disaster... I have faith that UD is perhaps a more truthful ID for what ever could be attributed to Intelligent Design, in his particular case, the proof is in the records covered up in his Rotten Government, I'm sure that's scientifically provable, but who'd want to test it anyway, we all know already... Seems the thing that Intelligent Design proves is how dopey anyone is who believes crap like that, and how dopey anyone who sends their kids to King's School is with an idiot headmaster, I really do believe in that... Seems they want their kids to be just like them, PCID, perfectly complete idiotic dopes... Or noddies, I used to call them once, another shake your head moment...

Labour Should Be Standing For Human Rights, And Due Process, And Trial By Jury

Labour Should Be Standing For Human Rights, And Due Process, And Trial By Jury

Scuse me??? Labour should be standing for Human Rights, and due process, and trial by jury and just about every other protection of the public that these right wing wankers have cemented up, just pour in another load of quick setting crap to close off any justice and rights of the individual, I know there are people in that So-Called Liberal Party of miscreants who surely would not support what the Little Twit is doing, why don't they chuck him out, it's appropriate and about time... He needs to be shoved out the door, maybe get a job filling guzzlers up with his brother's paint thinners or whatever it is they're putting in the petrol at nobody's request...

Another Cry Wolf About A Threat

2005 November 2, Wednesday, 16:09

The Little Well-Known Liar Has Popped Up With Another Cry Wolf About A Threat

The Little Well-Known Liar has popped up with another Cry Wolf about a threat, and so we have to pass laws to counteract it??? Scuse me, they say they have a threat and then say we want the laws changed, probably with all those facets of fading freedoms they want, the human rights side has been ripped up with the proposed changes... Could it be they've discovered someone tunnelling under Sydney? And suddenly there's Big Me-Too-Kim collapsing again by saying he's going to pass whatever the Neo-Con Govt wants, same as the other Labor Right-Wing Premiers, cept for our local hero John Stanhope, a Real Labor Leader...